Comments on TECH SOURCE FROM BOHOL: Girls Love Linux

As a man who uses linux for over 10 years, and in ...

2009-02-14T09:06:00.000+08:00

As a man who uses linux for over 10 years, and in fact; however politically incorrect - I like girls. Better than sitting around with more pocket-protector wearing eggheads like myself. they smell better too...

The more, the merrier. At least some of us are not following the "naked empire" and blinding accepting what M$ throws out, but choosing to think for ourselves, view, and enjoy the unlimited possibilities of technology.

Happy computing, Ladies.

"Lets just help people with Linux, regardless of s...

2008-09-23T20:24:00.000+08:00

"Lets just help people with Linux, regardless of sex/race/religion or anything else. Is that so bad?"

thats what i thought when i saw this site. No offense but this seems kind of sexist. :/

And stop with these "we don't discriminate religio...

2008-07-20T18:01:00.000+08:00

And stop with these "we don't discriminate religions", DO discriminate religions which are the MAJOR source of sexual discrimination, (the contrary is yet to be proved!. Reine.

"no one is forcing you to reveal your gender".Have...

2008-07-20T02:27:00.000+08:00

"no one is forcing you to reveal your gender".

Have you ever been put into a position where you've felt uncomfortable revealing your gender? The fact that women sometimes do find it necessary to hide the fact that they're women --- or, alternatively, don't hide it and hence have problems because of it --- just proves that there is a problem with sexism. "Don't reveal your gender" isn't a solution.

Uhmmm....linuxchix was never necessary. I find it ...

2008-05-10T23:29:00.000+08:00

Uhmmm....linuxchix was never necessary. I find it quite emberrasing.

Weizbox said: " I personally haven't seen any sign...

2008-05-09T02:19:00.000+08:00

Weizbox said: " I personally haven't seen any signs of this 'locker room mentality' on any of the Linux forums that I visit... but perhaps Deb was going somewhere I wasn't."

And then Xstaty said: "Do they get updates PERIODically?"

Does anything else really need to be said to prove the existence of a locker room mentality?

If you can't see it, you've probably never had to deal with it from the side of the other. It's there, it exists and for those of us that are women in tech...we deal with it constantly. Having space on the Internet where we can be viewed as individuals and not have to deal with the kind of attitude behind so many of the comments on this blog post is absolutely essential.

I cannot wait for the day when Linuxchix is no longer necessary - that has always been the ultimate goal.

Do they get updates PERIODically?

2008-05-05T12:08:00.000+08:00

Do they get updates PERIODically?

I would say: Women loves GNU/Linux!.(flame me!, fl...

2008-05-02T19:26:00.000+08:00

I would say: Women loves GNU/Linux!.(flame me!, flame me so i get hotter!) Reine.

I like the idea of specialized LUGs. More focused...

2008-04-29T10:53:00.000+08:00

I like the idea of specialized LUGs. More focused that way as long as everyone gets along.

I fixed your Wikiepedia entry as it hadn't been updated since last year's cat fight.

haha, the comments left on this post are proof pos...

2008-04-29T10:16:00.000+08:00

haha, the comments left on this post are proof positive of the necesity of this kind of org. Especially considering how often women are expected to not be good with tech, or be afraid of it. Every women in tech jounralism is used as eyecandy, even if they do have a qualified viewpoint.

I don't understand how this can be a significant i...

2008-04-28T22:59:00.000+08:00

I don't understand how this can be a significant issue in online discussion forums where the gender of the poster can not be reliably determined. If you are a woman and believe there is some subtle, or not so subtle, bias against women on a help forum, no one is forcing you to reveal your gender.

Girls suck. We all know that.

2008-04-28T10:11:00.000+08:00

Girls suck. We all know that.

Comments from Digg:by weizbox:So instead of her in...

2008-04-28T10:10:00.000+08:00

Comments from Digg:

by weizbox:
So instead of her influencing and changing this "locker room mentality" that she was seeing by participating with the majority of Linux users.. she decided to try to separate girls from the the guys? Why create division? I personally haven't seen any signs of this 'locker room mentality' on any of the Linux forums that I visit... but perhaps Deb was going somewhere I wasn't.

'LinuxChix is a community for women who like Linux and Free Software, and for women and men who want to support women in computing. '
So... they're all go for only helping women, but not men. Men can help women.. but the goal is only to help women, and not men. How sexist is that? Why just focus on helping women? I'm pretty sure the inverse of this idea, or the same idea based on race instead of sex wouldn't go over too well.... and if that's truly the case, it looks to be a double-standard.

Lets just help people with Linux, regardless of sex/race/religion or anything else. Is that so bad?

by rootneg2:
You make a valid point; in that we cannot combat "classical" sexism with "counter" sexism. But that isn't what this is about.

If you are a male and would like to help LinuxChix and join the community I think that you would be more than welcomed; they are not trying to "exclude" men. And while (hopefully) with true gender equality of opportunity, we would not *need* programs like this, and they would in fact be detrimental; at the moment there *are* significant undercurrents of gender bias, especially in tech arenas and the "hard" sciences. Because of this, it *is* helpful to provide a "safe" environment for ostracized minorities to find support without the fear of subtle gender biases affecting interaction. While programs like this cannot alone solve all the problems of gender inequality (of opportunity) they can allow a girl who might otherwise feel discouraged early on, having her undeveloped ambitions nipped in the bud, to gain that first step of confidence and allow her to go on and compete on equal footing in what you might call "the real world". Programs like LinuxChix or GirlStart or various programs that encourage girls in math, science, and technology are never meant as a "shortcut" or a "cheat", but merely a positive environment that they might not otherwise find.

It's true that largely, no-one has the audacity to outright and blatantly exclude women anymore (although blatant, overt sexism *is* still a problem in various countries around the world, most notably in Africa and the Middle East) but take, for example, the various "name studies" in which the same article or resume is sent to various academic journals or prospective employers, the only difference being the name at the top. Invariably a female name will perform more poorly than a male name (subconscious racial bias is also apparant, with typically "ethnic" names performing worse than typically "white" names). This, to me at least, makes it clear that there are still many gender (and class, racial, etc) bias issues that need to be solved. Racism is still undeniably a problem, even after slavery was outlawed, blacks gained the right to vote, and segregation laws were repealed; legislation is not the end-all and be-all of discrimination. Since most of these legislative milestones were gained by women decades after the same milestones were passed for black americans, I can only imagine that the *cultural* biases are likewise a few decades behind.

Saying "Sexism is no longer an issue; women are free to do anything a man can do" does not accurately portray the full situation, and is overall a detrimental viewpoint to hold in that is allows people to feel comfortable with simply ignoring the issues.

Great! I didn't know that that kind of organizatio...

2008-04-28T10:01:00.000+08:00

Great! I didn't know that that kind of organization exists. It's like girl power and all. Awesome, just now I realize that I wanna be a girl :-)